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zico 6:24 Tue Oct 27
Frank Lampard Senior

I've been reading all the West Ham books again and I'm starting once again the fabulous "They Played With John Lyall." If you haven't read it I would highly recommend a great read.

One thing strikes me though, and that's how despite being a legend in his own right, second in all time appearances list to the great Billy Bonds, Frank Lampard Senior doesn't seem to get the same level of admiration or respect for his achievements than both Billy and Sir Trevor amongst the fans.

Just wondering on why that may be bar being the father of Frank Junior of course!!

Vexed 6:36 Tue Oct 27
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Not in the same league as a player and likely because of the shithouse that came out of his cock.

Simples.

Northern Sold 6:39 Tue Oct 27
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Got more kids than that old woman that lived in a shoe…

On The Ball 6:58 Tue Oct 27
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I'd say he suffers from his connection to Redknapp. He will have known what was going on and I'm sure he'll have benefitted too.

ChillTheKeel 6:59 Tue Oct 27
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He's too busy cheering on Chelsea.

zico 7:02 Tue Oct 27
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On The Ball 6:58 Tue Oct 27

I did wonder that. Always wondered if he and Billy get on at all at reunions and the like or is he the outsider of the three./

Obviously worked hard to make it as a player as he wasn't the most naturally talented but he did score the goal up at Elland Road to put us in the Final in 80. I didn't know unto reading the book that he wasn't picked for the first semi final game and not sure who was left back that day.

gph 7:03 Tue Oct 27
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Brooking and Bonds were better footballers.

FLS belongs firmly in the good, and outside the great.

zico 7:04 Tue Oct 27
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ChillTheKeel 6:59 Tue Oct 27

Again fair point but I can't remember Billy getting too much grief when he went on to manage Millwall, although I might be wrong.

Chigwell 7:09 Tue Oct 27
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He was a consistent and reliable player when I watched the team regularly back in the 60s and 70s. He was not however exceptionally quick, good in the air, or incisive as an attacking defender. When Bonds played at right back early on, Bonds was the more effective full back of the two, but he went on to be a great defensive midfielder as well. Lampard Snr was never much more than a good servant to the club and I include what happened during the Redknapp/Bonds affair. I just which we had kept his loyalty and that of his son who would have been a fantastic player for us.

On The Ball 7:10 Tue Oct 27
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zico 7:02 Tue Oct 27

I was actually referring to the bungs, dodgy signings, dodgy wage deals and Willie Mackay etc, but that's a great point!

Side of Ham 7:33 Tue Oct 27
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He scored a goal that is down in West Ham folklore, got it's own song and everything, and he was a stalwart in a side that included Bonds & Brooking they were a trio in a sense due to their similar ages and the media liked to mention the link too as that is how football was. Then it changed... the money poured in, everyone was in it for themselves, and he saw the pound signs along with 'Arry.... and Bonzo was shown to be a genuine West Ham legend. So much so he wasn't even sneered at for going to Millwall due to fact he wasn't a cunt to West Ham and did what HE needed to do after a back stabbing session. I've always felt Frank Snr regrets that period and it was easier for him to shrink into his sons shadow as a consequence but at the time of him playing I'd be disappointed if Paul Brush was in the line up.

Could be totally wrong though as all sorts of stories have been bandied about where I used to knock around as a youngster about gambling debts etc.....

As time went on he's been forgotten about, now runs the Nightingale in Wanstead doesn't he?.

only1billybonds 8:05 Tue Oct 27
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Nothing to do with his vile offspring,fact is he was never over popular with the fans until that night at Elland Rd. He was 't a target for the 'boo boys' but got his fair share of undeserved (my opinion) clog. He was always just a tad above average,maybe that was the main reason for the fans take on him


As an aside,my old dear loved him. She used to take me to the night games when my old man pissed off and spent the 90 mins banging on about his 'lovely scotch's.'

Mex Martillo 8:19 Tue Oct 27
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Frank is a top man and for me in the same class as Bonds and co.
I am still unimpressed about how he was treated by West Ham when he was coaching.

Mr Kenzo 8:21 Tue Oct 27
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Www.shedend.com

Steady 8:32 Tue Oct 27
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I didn’t start going regularly until 85/86 so only saw him play once 84 and can’t remember much of the game. I suspect his name has been tarnished by Fat Frank junior

wanstead_hammer 8:34 Tue Oct 27
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O1bb - haha.
Yeh he was a steady-eddie, a good club servant. (A bit of a lazy bastard basically, so got away injury wise. Like father, Like overrated sprog).
When he was at left back and cut in to boot it upfield, his arm used to go up, like he was flagging a sherbert down.
Still, he was a legend that night up at elland road. One of the best away days/nights ever. 😃

SoH - yeh the Nightingale. Ain’t been in there. The one next door is alright (The Duke).
Seen him about a few times.

, 8:58 Tue Oct 27
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FLS was a fixture in the side throughout the 1970s but though a respected regular there were always other players around during that period who more excited the fans.

I dare say in other clubs where a player was a fixture for a decade it might have been a bigger deal but FLS never matched up to the likes of Moore, Brooking, Bonzo, Hurst, Robson etc.

boleynkid 9:08 Tue Oct 27
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At the Hammers Best XI show he was voted the club's best ever left back by his peers so at least they recognise just how good he was and that should be good enough for all of us. 665 games and played in all the major finals as well.

Dicksy came a very close second.

easthammer 9:13 Tue Oct 27
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Seem to remember he broke his leg early in his career. Came back stronger and always played without shin pads back when a tackle was a tackle. Better than average IMO although better defensively than going forward. Didn't play all the games he did for no reason. Met him once after he retired when he enrolled Frank Jr (then an apprentice at West Ham) on a Business Studies course at the College I worked at. Seemed a decent bloke and down to earth. As others have said got tarred with the same brush (no pun) as Harry when Billy Bonds was stabbed in the back and obviously should imagine he fell out of love with West Ham fans given the abuse directed at his son. (Why wouldn't he).

I went to a Hammers Night at the Cliffs Southend a few years back which was the 1980s Cup Winners and I think the only no show from the team was Frank. Have a feeling him a Bonzo don't go drinking together.

Crassus 9:44 Tue Oct 27
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My Dad, God bless him, was close pals with his uncle growing up and knew him from young
Hard case and well connected apparently as he grew up with various business interests outside of the game
That may have tainted fans opinion - mine as a young'un then was that he was a limited player, with a annoying habit of a hopping back track, but was never shy of any physicality, nor intimidated, in fact at a time of genuine nutcases in the game he was never on the receiving end of any naughty business, which is telling in itself
Was always good with us lads collecting the Thursday autographs mind, unlike Hurst and Peters, so fair play to the bloke

ChesterRd 9:48 Tue Oct 27
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He was playing when I first went as a kid. Nowhere near the level of popularity as Bonds or Brooking. Then stories came out about touting and being a less than honourable landlord and since then we've had the other offspring coming to light. This was before he informed everyone that he was now Chelsea. He will never be a legend, he wasn't good enough as a player when compared to our real greats and certainly not good enough as a human being

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